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  We told the Children!!

  by 2escaped lifers in

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  hiya everyone!!!

  as we told you in our short intro, we decided that we had enough proof?

  evidence?

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  Joker10 : Not sure which side you're coming from. I'm usually very perceptive, but I can't tell about your comments. Could you please explain a little more about your comments? Thanks, S
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  Prayers in Restaurants....

  by caspian in

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  on bank holiday monday just gone, a dear kind older couple in the cong decided to take me and my good lady out for a slap up meal, to try to cheer us up after the recent upheaval in our life.

  somehow i ended up with the bill.. anyway, this was the local italian trattoria were we often go, and are on first names terms with the staff and quite a few of the other regulars.

  big mistake!!.

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  Living here in the South (bible-belt), I think the Southern JW's are even worse than most about the public prayers in restaurants. It was bad enough when several families would go together, everybody bowing their heads and praying as a group. But, as I think someone already mentioned, just wait until you're with a group and the CO is there as well....Some brown-nosing Elder would always stand up and pray for the whole group. Geez, at the Pharisaic showiness!!!!

  I used to get in trouble for the way I did it. So as not to bother others around me, I would pray silently, without bowing my head or even closing my eyes. In my teens, it was a running joke with all my friends to try and detect when I was praying.

  Brandon
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  Ok finally the time is here

  by SheilaM in

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  hi you all i'm starting this early.

  my son is graduating next week from bootcamp.

  if anyone would like to congratulate him on his achievemnent please do

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  HUUU-AGHHHHH!

  Way to Go Anthony!

  Brandon
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  We told the Children!!

  by 2escaped lifers in

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  hiya everyone!!!

  as we told you in our short intro, we decided that we had enough proof?

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  WOW!!! Thank you everyone for such kind and caring comments!!!!! You don't know how much it means to us to hear such encouragement. We don't know anyone else in our area personally who has left the borg or has similar feelings toward the WTS, so for the past two years we've been each other's only confidant and support system.

  It really means a lot to us to know that we are definitely not the only ones to go through all of this. When you've grown up all your life believing the lovely picture the WTS paints of "those on the outside" and the fate of "apostates", that they have "nothing else to offer", "only hate and malice", blah blah blah.... It is so REFRESHING to know that, yet again, they are full of $#!^.

  Thanks again ALL!!!!!

  Brandon and Stephanie
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  We told the Children!!

  by 2escaped lifers in

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  hiya everyone!!!

  as we told you in our short intro, we decided that we had enough proof?

  evidence?

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  TWO sets of Grandparents no less, both sets are diehard (long time Elders, special priviledges, etc.)....

  Not gonna be pretty...

  Thanks for all the kind comments everyone!!!!!
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  We told the Children!!

  by 2escaped lifers in

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  hiya everyone!!!

  as we told you in our short intro, we decided that we had enough proof?

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  Hiya Everyone!!! As we told you in our short intro, we decided that we had enough Proof? Evidence? whatever, to finally make the decision not to ever go back to the "Bright and Shinies." (from the movie "Bubble Boy") It took us two years of heart wrenching research, prayer, soul searching, and discussions to come to this conclusion. We held off telling the children (two boys, one almost 9, the other10.5 years old) until we were sure of our decision and course of action. We had discussed with them, when they would ask why we missed meetings or didn't study the Watchtower or other books with them anymore, that we were taking some time to make absolutely sure we were in the "right religion". They seemed to understand and be OK with this explanation. Now that we had definitely made our decision, it was time to break the news to the kids...

  Well, we had been telling the children the last couple weeks that when the time came, we would explain things to them about our not going to any meetings, and about bits and pieces they had picked up from the conversations that they were not supposed to hear. Like the words hypocrite, for instance. They heard that one alot.... Anyway, we told them that we were going on a picnic this weekend and we would explain things. So,.......

  We sat them down with some ice cream (we had to have some too, just to make them more comfortable, of course ) at Dairy Queen. After giving them examples of instances where someone might act contrary to what they knew was appropriate behavior etc. (not specifics, mind you, all generalities) we explained that the organization was acting this way and wasn't that wrong? More specifically, we gave them an example: What if you told someone a story that wasn't true, but you swore to them that it WAS true, and that they should believe it and change something they were doing in their life because of your story. But what if, a few years later, after this person had changed their life because of your story, you told them a different story that they should live by. And they said "hey, but you told me to do this", and you lied AGAIN and said that you never told them the first story. They agreed that that was really wrong, and bad. We then gave them some real examples of faulty and changing WTS teachings, and told them that we had finally made our decision that we were in fact in the "wrong religion", and that we would not be going back to the Kingdom Hall. Then we waited, holding our breath, to see what their resonse would be.....

  Shock! Disbelief! ...................But not from them, from US!!!!!

  They wholeheartedly agreed, and began telling us about things that they had heard and read that didn't make sense to them, and just seemed plain incorrect. (Remember, they are 9 and 10!! ) They got tickled about the Borg reference (the "Borganization") and said that they forgave us for teaching them these things since we were only teaching them what WE had been taught was correct since we were children. Our youngest actually said, "that's OK .You didn't know any better." They also said that they wanted the "red pill" not the "blue pill" (they are big fans of The Matrix) and they wanted to know the truth even if it may mean things would be different than they were taught to expect. Not to sound like overly prejudiced parents or anything, but WOW!!! How perceptive and mature, these amazing little guys!!!

  So, anyway, it went really well. Thanks again for all the support and kindness. We hope to not only enjoy further encouragement here, but to also share as much as we can with others, as we all go through this roller coaster ride together!

  Best regards,

  Brandon and Stephanie
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  JW Spys????

  by 2escaped lifers in

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  forgive a newbie question, but do any "in" jw's lurk in these forums to ferret out potential apostates?

  just curious?.

  brandon

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  thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it . I am new to the e-mail scene. Please forgive me. I'm serious. The only person I ever e-mailed regularly has been my sister, and she capitalizes all her e-mails so her simple hello is like a BLAST FROM A PRINCIPAL . My husband has had to instruct me on the use of the emoticon. I do apologize again. s
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  Top Ten Bands/Artists in no order whatsoever

  by Lycurgus in

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  all right folks... the number one most important thing about a person is?

  you guessed it, what kind of music they listen to.

  so list your top ten bands/artists in no particular order.

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  Ohhh, Ohhh... How could I forget Queen!!!

  Brandon
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  JW Spys????

  by 2escaped lifers in

  1. jw
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  forgive a newbie question, but do any "in" jw's lurk in these forums to ferret out potential apostates?

  just curious?.

  brandon

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  We don't care who knows who we are. That's why we put our names out there I guess. It's not Stephanie and Brandon Bartlett though. I'm , uh Sheena and he's uh, George . That's it. George and Sheena ....Smith. Yeah, that's us. And we're not from Alabama. He meant to say Alaska. Yeah. We have a pet polar bear.
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  Top Ten Bands/Artists in no order whatsoever

  by Lycurgus in

  1. social
  2. humour

  all right folks... the number one most important thing about a person is?

  you guessed it, what kind of music they listen to.

  so list your top ten bands/artists in no particular order.

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  Pink Floyd - The Eagles - Led Zeppelin - Jimi Hendrix - Sting - The Police - Styx - Van Halen - Aerosmith - Lynard Skynard

  ahhhhhhh...... Freebird!!!! That should be our exit anthem!

  Brandon